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Thanks for sharing this interesting exchange, Patrick. I’m not sure how far my perspective applies, but I felt compelled to chime in.

As a photographer working in the climbing world, often documenting significant ascents and first ascents, I’ve run into a frustrating pattern: when I share photos with athletes (always free of charge), within hours they’re scraped from the athlete’s Instagram by smaller online outlets. These platforms then build full articles around them, often without permission.

When I reach out, always respectfully, I typically get responses like “we’re non-profit,” “this is just a hobby,” or worse, “we have a right to use what’s online.” It’s exhausting. Most of the time, photographers let it go because the back-and-forth burns time and energy we’d rather spend creating. But that silence reinforces the perception that this behavior is acceptable.

It’s especially frustrating when these articles show up at the top of search results for major ascents, effectively capitalizing on work they didn’t commission or license. Ironically, they’d rather delete the post than pay a small usage fee or place a small banner linked to eshop with climbing prints.

I understand the challenges editorial outlets face today, but it leaves me wondering what sustainable models might exist. These photoshoots are rarely covered by brands, and editorial licensing has largely disappeared from outdoor marketing budgets.

Curious to hear how others navigate this space, I know I’m not the only one facing this.

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